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fceligoj

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Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« on: December 20, 2020, 04:21:57 PM »
A little over a week ago, I sent a message to the ACS of the US Embassy inquiring about COVID-19 vaccinations for US Expats.  Of course, no reply.  It seems we are on our own on getting vaccinated here as well as anywhere else in the world vs being in the USA.



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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 05:02:42 PM »
I suspect that, at least in Theory, any horsepital or even private doc can order meds from the U.S.  Of course availability would be an important consideration.  When i got a flue vaccination one year from Dr. Ken, I pretty sure he said he got the vaccine directly from the U.S.

But your point is well-taken, Frank.  Those of who who want the vaccine may have to be proactive about obtaining it.

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 05:58:07 AM »
I sent this message to Aetna:

Greetings from Khon Kaen,
The covid vaccine should be available soon in Thailand. Does Aetna have any plans for helping members to get the two vaccinations that will be necessary? Will the cost of the vaccinations be covered by my Aetna insurance plan? Thank you in advance.
Their reply:
Greeting from Aetna Thailand, According to your inquiry about Covid19 vaccine, nowadays the Thailand ministry of public health didn't announce the approval of any vaccine. Because of that, Aetna Thailand doesn't have plan for the vaccine. If we produce further step, Aetna will announce it to our customers.
[/size]Should you have any query please do contact us at Tel. 02-232-8666 or E-mail address : csc@aetna.co.th[/url]We will be more than pleased to assist you in any possible way we can.[/size][/font]

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 12:44:37 PM »
I am a little sketchy on the details, but several weeks or more prior to the Pfizer vaccine announcement, Thailand announced that "they" were developing a vaccine and expected it to be available in May 2021.  I was never quite clear whether this was a project being developed internally in Thailand or as a joint venture with other countries and/or pharmaceutical companies.  I have not heard much about it since them.

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 05:09:12 PM »
I think both. Thailand is working on a vaccine internally, Chula VRC, and have been chosen by AstraZeneca to make their vaccine.


https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/thai-firm-joins-astrazeneca-make-covid-19-vaccine-southeast-asia


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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 06:02:39 PM »
I recognize the fact that Thailand is trying to get a production capability of one of the main suppliers, but the word I heard maybe available by mid-2021.  Who will be the first ones to get the vaccine, expats???  Doubt it.  AND they want to develop an indigenous one too.

I was trying to get some kind of response from our Embassy to see how they would assist US citizens, maybe ZERO SUPPORT!

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2020, 02:52:21 PM »
Thanks Frank! Here is some additional information about Covid 19 Vaccinations in thailand.

ThaiVisa.com this morning => https://bit.ly/2KJajK9


Thai hospital banned from offer to sell COVID-19 vaccine

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A private Thai hospital was ordered on Sunday to stop advertising COVID-19 vaccinations for sale in advance on the grounds that no vaccine is yet approved in Thailand.

Vibhavadi Hospital told Reuters its online offer for 1,000 initial reservations for the two-dose Moderna vaccine had been the result of a misunderstanding. With reservations priced at 4,000 baht, the total cost of getting vaccinated would have been 10,000 baht ($330).

 Thai hospital banned from offer to sell COVID-19 vaccine

As the first governments begin vaccine rollouts around the world, questions have been raised over how the limited supplies are prioritised and whether people will be able to pay to jump the queue.

The Ministry of Health said in a statement that no COVID-19 vaccine had been approved for use in Thailand yet and that advertising one violated hospital regulations.

"The removal of the advertisement was ordered," it said.

Chaisit Kupwiwat, a director at Vibhavadi Hospital, told Reuters: "There was a misunderstanding and so we've stopped the programme... We planned to order the vaccines, but now we've stopped."

The hospital had sought reservations by Jan. 31 for vaccinations later in 2021.

Moderna did not respond immediately to an emailed request for comment on any such sale.

Thailand has signed an advance deal for AstraZeneca’s potential COVID-19 vaccine, but has not set rollout plans for any vaccine yet.

Moderna's vaccine this month became the second to get emergency use authorisation from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration after the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine.

Moderna has said it will deliver approximately 20 million doses to the U.S. government this year and is expected to have between 100 million and 125 million delivered globally in the first quarter of 2021.

In August, Moderna said it was pricing its vaccine at $32 to $37 per dose for smaller deals.

Thailand is a major hub for medical tourism, drawing patients from Asia, the Middle East and beyond.

(Additional reporting by Jiraporn Kuhakan; writing by Matthew Tostevin; editing by Jason Neely)

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 07:22:45 PM »
Just read the following in a US Embassy Alert.

"COVID-19 Vaccinations, As part of our efforts to give U.S. citizens timely information so that they can make informed choices about travel abroad, the Department advises that the United States government does not plan to provide COVID-19 vaccinations to private U.S. citizens overseas.  U.S. citizens traveling or residing overseas should follow host country developments and guidelines for COVID-19 vaccination."

Seems like Uncle Sam WILL NOT provide COVID-19 vaccination services to anyone who is traveling or living abroad.  Just confirms what we probably suspected anyway.
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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2021, 08:53:07 PM »
I don't see how the could, Frank. They would have to set up "field hospitals" of some kind, and then hire Thai staff to organize it and give the jabs. Or they would have to contract it out to Thai hospitals and health facilities.  But what would the point of that be?   Sooner or later, the vaccines will be available to the general falang population in Thailand just as it will be to Thai people.

Has anyone heard what the going fair  "retail" price of the vaccines would be if you had to pay for them out of pocket? I just got a flu jab at Bangkok Hospital for B800, and a pnenoma for something like B3,000.  So, there is a big difference in what vaccines potential cost.

I am not even sure pneumonia is a good idea. Pneumonia is what will take you out "relatively" fast and peacefully rather than lingering with some painful, untreatable condition. 

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2021, 01:11:07 PM »
I recognize that, Rex.  I was just putting out the notification.  My biggest concern, where in the list do we stand, especially where most of us are over 60.  The PM says the vaccines are to be free, with no indication of it to be for everyone living here or just Thais.  I think we all saw on ThaiVisa Newsletter that if someone wants a virus test, 3,000 baht at a government hospital or clinic and 6,500 baht if at a private hospital or clinic.  Also, if someone who get the infection, they go to a hospital for free, or is that just for Thais?  I know that some of the Thai banks insurance arms have the COVID-19 Insurance Plan that provides 100,000 baht payment if one gets the infection.  So, if the hospitalization is not for free, will 100,000 baht cover the cost?

I'd almost venture a guess that the the pair of vaccinations would be at least in the 10,000 baht range if we are not considered part of the country's inoculation plan.

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Re: Vaccinations for US Citizens (Expats)
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2021, 02:33:26 PM »
"The PM says the vaccines are to be free..."

Frank, it's just deja vu all over again!

They make a announcement without thinking through the dozen open questions that need to be resolved.  Don't worry, they will figure it out as they go along!