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Bangkok Immigration Office on Submitting Form TM30
« on: August 11, 2019, 06:56:44 AM »
Thailand blogger Richard Barrow posted on his blog today what he learned last night at a meeting he attended which had BKK immigration officials announcing how they would be enforcing Article 38 TM30.

Well worth reasing blog below

http://bit.ly/2Z0Wyvq
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Re: Bangkok Immigration Office on Submitting Form TM30
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2019, 06:34:39 PM »
Tks, Frank.  There is a lengthy discussion about this on ThaiVisa => http://bit.ly/2YWpEfC

Thailand based blogger Richard Barrow reveals difficulties in renewing extension of stay
Popular Thailand based blogger Richard Barrow has posted about experiencing difficulties in trying to renew his extension of stay.

On Friday, Richard returned to Samut Prakan immigration where he expected to collect his newly approved extension.
However, unexpectedly, he was told that Bangkok hadnít yet approved his application ...  http://bit.ly/2YWpEfC


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Re: Bangkok Immigration Office on Submitting Form TM30
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2019, 07:22:17 PM »
Aside from the inconvenience and the draconian nature of the TM30 requirement, it is stupid!

Scenario Number One: A crew of noogoodniks. They each have a legal residence at various locations in Thailand for which they dutifully file a 90 Day Report. They move freely about Thailand doing their sinister deeds, staying at each others homes and will and never filing a TM30. These guys will never be caught except by accident or if someone happens to rat them out. Even if they do get caught out, if they are successful nogoodniks, the fine for failing to file will be a joke, and anyway, the penalty for whatever other crimes they are up to is going to be worse than a fine.

Scenario Number Two: Similar to Scenario Number One, this time, an honest citizen of means rents or owns two or more condos in Thailand.  He travels back and forth frequently, as often as he sees fit. He might even stay with a friend or two along the way during his travels. Naturally, his friend never files a TM30 as he know the guy will be returning to his own home. The guy never files a TM30 and will never be caught out except by accident or if someone informs on him. Even if someone informs on him, very difficult to track his movement or prove that he was ever away for more than 24 hours.

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Screws tighten on TM30 reporting; petition ongoing ...
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2019, 12:13:33 PM »
Thailand tightens the screws on TM30 reporting, petition ongoing


Wed 14 Aug 2019, 12:12 pm

Nearly 5,000 Thai expats have now signed a petition pleading for modification or abolition of the TM30 immigration form. The well-organised petition calling for changes to the form is an unusual step for expats who, most of the time, keep their head down and out of the daily operations of the Land of Smiles.

Read the full article and 19 pages of discussion on ThaiVisa.com =>

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1117521-thailand-tightens-the-screws-on-tm30-reporting-petition-ongoing/#comments


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Re: Bangkok Immigration Office on Submitting Form TM30
« Reply #4 on: Today at 09:36:55 AM »
I was just thinking about when all these issues with the Form TM30 raised its head.  Look back.  Who was put in charge of Immigration?  Of course, Big Joke.

And what did he do?  He went after all those illegals in Thailand, those on overstays, those who did not report where they were and are staying, the criminals, those with forged documents (passports, visas ,etc.)  Thousands!

So, I would think the senior government officials including the National Chief of the RTP, those in other senior positions realized how lax everyone in Immigration had been.  Most I/O's and their supervisors were ignoring the law. 

He changed that and the follow-on Chief of Immigration is doing the same.

We innocents have just been caught up in this serious implementation of the law.

So go back further.  What if, and I say what if, the laws would have been followed for the last 10, 15, 20 years.  Would we still be here?  Most likely and we would have just proceeded every time to have the person responsible for submitting the Form TM30's, do their thing.  We would have probably gone forward with 'assisting' those who were responsible by getting a power of attorney to do the constant legwork.

It is what it is until the Thai Government changes the law, or the National Chief of the TRP, gives further directions on how to implement the current law.

It's like we Americans with the IRS, we live with it.