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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 02:27:05 PM »

Terry, 1 - how hard is to get a one year O-A Visa today?  Secondly, how often can you renew an O-A Visa before they say no more?  I see you can extend it for 3 months before the expiration date.


If you look at the SiamLegal site on 1 year O-A Visas, there are some qualifiers.  Unless they are 'blowing smoke', some of the issues presented are harder than the Retirement Extension.  I had read somewhere you may have to meet certain financial criteria.


https://www.siam-legal.com/thailand-visa/1-Year-Thailand-Visa.php


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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 02:31:53 PM »
I see it also says, "[font=]However, this type of visa requires the visa holders to exit and re-enter Thailand every 90 days by air, sea, or land travel"[/font]

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 04:08:57 PM »
It used to be that the bank letter certifying bank deposits and ending balance cost about 500 baht.  It has been a long time since I had to get one so maybe the cost has gone up.
For my visa extensions I've always used the 800,000 baht method. Bangkok Bank was only charging 100 baht for their certification/deposit letter past three years. I probably will be changing over to the monthly income method now. My SSA gets deposited to BBK automatically from SSA, every month, anyway.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 04:54:24 PM »
"I see it also says, "[font=]However, this type of visa requires the visa holders to exit and re-enter Thailand every 90 days by air, sea, or land travel"[/font]"

That info is talking about a multiple entry Non O Visa, not a Non O-A Visa.

A Non O-A Visa can only be obtained in your home country, and requires a police report, a medical certificate and I think money in your bank. 
The money at that point does not have to be in a Thai bank.  That is only required for extensions at immigration.

An O-A is good for 1 year, and gives a one year permission to stay for each entry.  If you enter just before the Visa expires, not the permission to stay, you can get almost 2 years out of it. 
The second year, after the actual visa has expired, will require a re-entry permit if you leave and want to return and keep the permission to stay alive.
I've read of people getting back to back Non O-A Visas without a problem.  How many you can get - I don't know.




A Non O multiple entry is good for 1 year, and gives you 90 days for each entry.  If you enter just prior to it expiring, you can get almost 15 months out of it.  But you do have to leave at 90 days unless you get an extension from immigration.
Extensions would be for 1 year for the reason of retirement or marriage, 60 days to visit a Thai spouse.
 
It is also possible to get 7 days extension.  The actual extension is denied, but they will give you 7 days to leave the country.
Each extension at immigration costs 1900 baht.

Hope that helps someone.
Terry


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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 07:17:54 PM »
Thanks again, Terry.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 07:56:52 AM »
Thanks, Terry.  Sounds like Siam Legal does not want to recognize the Non-O-A Visa.  It probably is not in their best interests for a person to have one.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 08:02:21 AM »

Terry, I went on this website to check it out.


http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22O-A%22-(Long-Stay).html


Here is the opening sentence.


Non-Immigrant Visa  O-A (Long Stay)
     
     This type of visa may be issued to applicants aged 50 years and over who wish to stay in  Thailand for a period of not exceeding 1 year without the intention of working.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 06:22:07 PM »
I just saw this and thought the extra details might interest some.

Terry

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1077829-o-a-visa-from-thai-embassy-washington-dc-report-jan-2019/?utm_source=newsletter-20190112-1342&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news&_fromLogin=1

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2019, 06:28:27 PM »
They Embassy suggests that the visa application not be sent in "too early".  The reason is, they enter a "Valid From" date of the date they receive the application and a "Valid Until" date of 1 year after that."

I fell foul of that one with my now expired one from London.
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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2019, 09:35:21 PM »
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1078398-report-successful-retirement-extension-using-monthly-income-no-consul-letter/


This sounds promising.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2019, 03:49:50 PM »

You may want to read this on the possible 10-year retirement extensions and no 90 day report being pushed by Big Joke.  Big Joke was interviewed.  The information of interest is near the end of the article.


http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2019/01/16/superstar-cop-big-joke-on-his-rise-and-plans-for-expats-visas/







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retirement extensions may now be a 2-step process
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2019, 05:06:21 PM »
Mon 11 Feb 2019, 5:00 pm


I heard this from a reliable source, but please treat is as rumor until there is more confirmation.


This is perfectly logical, but it never got mentioned in the original discussions that I know of.

Obtaining an retirement extension using the bank deposit method may now require two visits to Imm. The first to confirm that 800K has been on deposit for two months prior to the application for the extension. Then, a second visit three months later to confirm that the 800K has remained on deposit for three months. At that time, final approval for the annual extension will be granted.

Has anyone else heard about this?

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2019, 07:06:23 AM »
That sounds almost too logical.  Give the person a temporary extension for the 3 months, then assess it again after the 3 months along with the first 90 day report and if all is good, then execute the full retirement extension.  (Sounds like the bank makes an additional commission/fee for the 2nd letter.)

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2019, 07:18:56 AM »
Although this was not discussed initially that I am aware of,  I cannot think of another way for Imm to verify that the 800K has remained in the bank for three months following the date the extension was applied for. If so, Imm staff is going to LOVE this as it practically doubles their workload for processing retirement extensions.

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Re: Thai Immigration new requirements retirement, marriage extensions
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2019, 09:23:40 PM »
Sorry Rex but I think that you misunderstood what it was. The wording on the police notice is that the 800,000 must be seasoned for 2 months before the extension application and remain there for 3 months after the application is approved which is a total of 5 months for the 800,000 and then for the remainder of the year the account is not allowed to fall below 400,000 or your next extension application will be denied. Some of the things that I have read claim that the 800,000 must be seasoned as it was in the old regulations which is 2 months before for your first application but then 3 months before for any renewals. So first application is 800,000 for 2 months before plus 3 months after which is 800,000 for 5 months then 400,000 for 6 months then back to 800,000 for the next 6 months then the 400,000 for the next 6 months and it continues like that.